Answer
Can I turn the hands backwards on my watch?
Short answer
Yes. Turning the hands backwards to set the time does not damage an ordinary watch, and most makers' own instructions tell you to do it. Seiko's 4R35 and 4R36 manual says to "turn back the minute hand a little behind the desired time and then advance it". Citizen, Miyota and Seiko's quartz manuals give the opposite order, 4 or 5 minutes forward and then back. Omega's manual says "turn the crown forwards or backwards" for every hand-set calibre it covers. The real limits are narrower than the myth: do not use the quickset date in the evening window your manual prints (it starts at 8 or 9 p.m. and ends as late as 4:30 a.m. on the ordinary calendars below), do not set the day of the week by running the hands backwards on a Miyota 6P80, and do not turn a perpetual calendar's hands backwards across midnight, which Patek Philippe says puts the calendar out of step but "would not damage the calendar mechanism".
On this page (7 sections)
Two answers circulate. One says never turn the hands backwards: Vintagemasters calls it a way to cause "fatal damage and a high service bill", and Gear Patrol warns of "undue wear on the gear train, much more so than normal operation". The other says it makes no difference, which is closer to the truth but skips the cases where it does. Neither side quotes a manufacturer. We read the setting instructions from eight makers, twelve documents covering mechanical and quartz movements, simple dates, day-dates, annual and perpetual calendars, and set out below what each one actually prints.
What each maker prints
Each row quotes or closely paraphrases the maker's own document. "Finish" is the direction the minute hand is moving when the instructions have you stop. The date column gives the hours during which that maker says not to correct the calendar.
| Maker and caliber | Hands backwards to set the time? | Finish | Do not correct the calendar |
|---|---|---|---|
| Seiko 4R35 (mechanical, date) | Yes: "turn back the minute hand a little behind the desired time and then advance it" | Forward | 9:00 p.m. to 1:00 a.m. |
| Seiko 4R36 (mechanical, day-date) | Yes, same instruction | Forward | 9:00 p.m. to 4:00 a.m. |
| Orient F6D (mechanical, multi-year calendar) | Yes: "first bring the hand back slightly earlier than the actual time and then move it forward" | Forward | 8:00 p.m. to 2:00 a.m. |
| Omega 2500, 8800 family (mechanical, date) | Yes: "Turn the crown forwards or backwards" | Either | 8 pm to 2 am ("not recommended") |
| Omega 8602, 8612 (mechanical, day-date) | Yes, forwards or backwards | Either | Setting day and date backwards: go back to 2 pm |
| Omega 321, 1861, 3861 (Speedmaster, no date) | Yes, forwards or backwards | Either | No calendar |
| Patek Philippe 240 Q, 324 S Q (mechanical, perpetual) | Yes: "move the hands in either direction", but not counterclockwise across midnight | Either | 4 p.m. to 1 a.m. |
| Bremont (customer FAQ) | "Will not damage your watch", but forwards recommended because of the date (MB range) | Forward | None stated |
| Citizen Eco-Drive B023, E0xx, E1xx, J015 (quartz) | Yes: "Move the hands 4 or 5 minutes forward and move them back" | Back | 9:00 PM to 1:00 AM (date), 9:00 PM to 4:30 AM (day-date) |
| Citizen 8651 (quartz, day, date, month, moon) | Yes, same 4 or 5 minute instruction | Back | 9:00 PM to 0:00 AM; month not while the date shows 31 to 2 |
| Miyota 6P80 (quartz, day, date, month, moon) | Yes for the time: "5 minutes ahead ... then turn back"; no for the day | Back | 9:00 p.m. to 0:30 a.m.; month not on the 26th to 31st |
| Seiko V111 to V187 solar (quartz) | Yes: "4 to 5 minutes ahead and then return it to the correct time" | Back | Not on the page we read |
| Grand Seiko 9F61, 9F51, 4J51 (quartz) | Yes, 4 to 5 minutes ahead "and then return it" | Back | Not on the page we read |
| Citizen E760 (quartz, perpetual) | Yes: the crown turned left moves the hands "backward (counter-clockwise)" | Either | Date does not change when going backward past 12:00 AM |
Not one of these documents forbids turning the hands backwards to set the time. The one that comes closest, Bremont's, says the opposite of the myth in its first clause: backwards setting "will not damage your watch". Its reason for preferring forwards is the date display, not the movement.
Why Seiko and Citizen give opposite orders
The most useful thing the table shows is a split nobody else has put side by side. Seiko's mechanical manual and Orient's tell you to overshoot backwards and come forward onto the minute. Citizen, Miyota, Seiko's own quartz solar manual and Grand Seiko's 9F manual tell you to overshoot forwards and come back. Both sides give the same kind of reason: Seiko's 4R manual says "the mechanism of mechanical watches is different from that of quartz watches", and Grand Seiko's 9F manual starts its instruction with "due to the mechanism of the quartz watch". Neither explains further.
What both orders share is that the minute hand always finishes moving in the same direction for a given watch, so the hand lands the same way every time. The practical rule follows directly: on a mechanical watch, approach the minute from behind; on a quartz watch, approach it from ahead. Either way you turn the hands backwards at some point, because the maker told you to. If your watch is one of these calibers, our pages on the Seiko 4R36 and on Citizen's Eco-Drive calibers cover the rest of their behaviour, and our quartz versus mechanical guide explains how the two kinds of movement differ inside.
If the minute hand moves after you push the crown home, that is a different problem from setting direction. Our page on hands that miss the markers separates a hand fitted slightly off from a slipping cannon pinion.
Where the myth comes from
The "never backwards" rule rests on the idea that turning the hands drives the whole movement in reverse. Commit Ginza, a Tokyo dealer whose staff technician wrote the most careful of the articles that rank for this question, puts it plainly: "only the gears near where the hands are attached rotate backward, while the others remain stationary", so the load on the movement is "not significantly different whether the hands are rotated forward or backward". They add that among Rolex models they "can't recall any models where turning the hands backward is prohibited".
The rule survives for two reasons. The first is that it is half right about the calendar. A date mechanism is built to be driven forward through midnight, and several manuals do restrict what happens when you go the other way, as the next section shows. The second is that "turn the crown counterclockwise" appears in many manuals with a different meaning. On the Seiko 4R35 and on the Citizen and Miyota quartz pieces above, turning the crown counterclockwise at the first click sets the date; it says nothing about the hands. And when winding by hand, turning the crown counterclockwise in the normal position "does not wind the mainspring" (Seiko) or "will have no effect" (Orient). None of those is a warning against moving the hands backwards.
The real restrictions, all of them on the calendar
Every limit these twelve documents put on moving the hands or using the quickset concerns a calendar display. They fall into four kinds.
- The quickset window. Every maker with a quickset date in the table prints hours to avoid. The narrowest is Citizen 8651's 9:00 PM to midnight; the widest are Seiko's 4R36 at 9:00 p.m. to 4:00 a.m. and Citizen's day-date Eco-Drive at 9:00 PM to 4:30 AM. Omega and Orient start an hour earlier, at 8 p.m. This is about the quickset, not the hands, and our answer on when it is unsafe to change the date explains what goes wrong inside.
- Setting the day by running the hands backwards. On the Miyota 6P80 the day advances with the hour hand, 24 hours per day, and the manual says: "Do not set the day by turning the crown in counterclockwise direction", because "there is the possibility the date will not change over". The same manual tells you to turn the minute hand back 5 minutes when setting the time, so the restriction is on reversing through the day change, not on reversing at all.
- Crossing midnight backwards on a perpetual calendar. Patek Philippe's manuals for the 240 Q and 324 S Q say: "We advise against turning the hands counterclockwise across midnight because this would desynchronize the calendar displays; however, it would not damage the calendar mechanism." Putting a desynchronised perpetual right means working through its correctors in the order the manual sets, so it costs time, not a repair. Our guide to annual and perpetual calendars covers how those displays are linked.
- Going far enough back for the date to follow. Where a manual does allow the date to move backwards with the hands, it tells you how far to go. Omega's 8500 and 8900 family, whose local hour hand jumps in one-hour steps, says the date "jumps forwards or backwards each time the hour hand passes midnight", and that when changing the time zone backwards you must "move the hour hand back past 7 pm to ensure the date changes". Its 8601 and 8611 annual calendars need the hands wound back to noon, and its 8602 and 8612 day-dates back to 2 pm. Citizen's E760 quartz perpetual simply does not move the date backwards: "the date does not change even if the hour and minute hands pass 12:00 AM".
So the honest version of the myth is this: the hands may go backwards; what you must not do is assume the calendar follows them, or use the quickset while the calendar is mid-change.
How to set the time on your watch, in order
- Find the manual for your caliber, not your model name. The maker's instruction beats this table and beats every rule of thumb.
- Pull the crown to the time position. If the seconds hand stops, the watch has hacking seconds; Omega's manual notes that its 321, 1861, 1863, 1865 and 1869 calibres do not, so on those you cannot synchronise to the second.
- Find the right half of the day by running the hands forward until the date changes. That moment is midnight; Seiko's 4R manual uses exactly this step to put the watch in the a.m. period.
- If the date needs changing, keep going forward to about 6 a.m., which is outside every window in the table, and use the quickset there. Patek Philippe's perpetual calendar manuals start every correction from 6 a.m. for the same reason.
- Bring the minute hand onto the time the way your maker says: from behind on a mechanical watch like the Seiko 4R or Orient F6D, from 4 or 5 minutes ahead on a Citizen, Miyota or Seiko quartz. If the manual gives no direction, as Omega's does not for calibres such as the 8800, either is fine.
- Push the crown home on a time signal, and on a screw-down crown screw it down straight away.
Our guide to setting and adjusting your watch walks through crown positions and screw-down crowns in more detail. Its FAQ line on setting the hands backwards says it "is not damaging" on most modern movements, which these manuals bear out; this page adds the per-maker direction that line leaves out.
Time zones and clock changes
Going back an hour for a clock change or a westward flight is the case people worry about most, and it is the case makers most clearly allow. Omega designs its 8500 and 8900 family around it: the local hour hand moves "forwards or backwards in one-hour jumps". Citizen's E760 has a time difference function that turns the hands "backward (counter-clockwise) by one hour" at a time. Our answer on setting a GMT watch covers which hand is the independent one on each type.
On an ordinary date watch, turning back one hour does not reach midnight unless you do it between midnight and 1 a.m., so the calendar is not involved. On a perpetual calendar, avoid that hour, since that is the one crossing Patek advises against.
When this answer stops applying
- Your manual says otherwise. This table covers the documents we read on 23 October 2026. A manual for your exact caliber overrides it.
- The watch has an unusual display. Commit Ginza's technician advises against turning the hands backwards on retrograde hour and minute displays and on Franck Muller's Crazy Hours, and urges caution on perpetual calendars and minute repeaters. We found no maker document for those; follow the manual.
- The watch is a perpetual or annual calendar. Backwards setting is allowed on the Patek and Omega pieces above, but not across midnight on the Pateks, and the date only follows the hands if you go back far enough on the Omegas.
- The calendar already misbehaves. A date that changes late or not at all is a fault, not a setting habit; see our page on a date that is not changing at midnight.
Common follow-up questions
Will turning the hands back change the date back?
It depends on the caliber, and the manuals say so. Omega's 8500 and 8900 family move the date back when the jumping hour hand passes midnight backwards, provided you go back past 7 pm. Citizen's E760 quartz perpetual does not move the date back at all. Patek Philippe advises against crossing midnight backwards on its perpetuals because the displays fall out of step. On a simple date watch, set the date with the quickset instead.
Is it bad to turn the crown backwards when winding?
No. Seiko's 4R manual says turning the crown counterclockwise "does not wind the mainspring", and Orient's says it "will have no effect". It simply does nothing.
Is it safe to turn the hands back for daylight saving time?
Yes. Go back one hour. Unless you do it between midnight and 1 a.m., the hands do not cross midnight and the date is not involved. Omega builds a one-hour backward jump into its 8500 and 8900 family for exactly this.
Sources and further reading
- Seiko, instructions for Cal. 4R35, 4R36, 4R37, 4R38, 4R39 (via watch.co.uk): time and date setting, date windows, winding.
- Seiko, instructions for V111 to V187 solar calibers, setting the time (two-hand models).
- Grand Seiko, 9F instruction manual, how to use for Cal. 9F61, 9F51, 4J51: setting the time.
- Orient (Seiko Epson), Mechanical watches with multi-year calendar instruction manual: specifications for F6D, setting the time and date.
- Omega, Operating instructions, 01/2024, V26, 2nd edition: calibres 2500, 8500, 8601, 8602, 8800, 8900 families and 321, 1861, 3861.
- Patek Philippe, Instructions for use, Caliber 240 Q perpetual calendar (P2448, v5).
- Patek Philippe, Instructions for use, Calibers 324 S Q and 26-330 S Q perpetual calendar (P2477, v10).
- Bremont, Customer service FAQs: using your watch.
- Citizen, Instruction manual for B023, B035, B036, B690, E0xx, E1xx, J015, J165: setting the time, adjusting the calendar.
- Citizen, Abbreviated instruction for caliber 8651.
- Citizen, Instruction manual for Cal. E76x perpetual calendar: setting the time, time difference correction.
- Miyota, Cal. 6P80 instruction manual.
- Commit Ginza, "Dr. Ito's thorough analysis of mechanical watches!! Vol.9: You should not rotate the hands of a mechanical watch backwards!"
- Vintagemasters, "2 common mistakes when changing the time", 16 December 2021.
- Gear Patrol, "Two Mistakes That Can Ruin a Mechanical Watch and How to Avoid Them", 24 May 2024.
Last reviewed 23 October 2026. Spotted an error? Tell us and we will fix it in public.